History Channel’s “Unidentified” and a Secret Meeting Between Intelligence Officials Running AATIP. Or… was it?

First, full disclosure. I am a US Army Counterintelligence Agent. This will be the first time I’ve posted something on Reddit in the 10 years I’ve been here that runs the risk of someone being able to figure out who I am based on the story I’m about to tell, but I’m nearly retired, so I think I’m probably alright.

I want to start with a disclaimer. I know, having read a ton of books and watched a ton of stuff over this topic, that we (CI) have a bad reputation in this and the UFO community and I get it. But me, personally? I have no reason or desire to lie or add more confusion into this subject as it’s already muddled enough as it is. So what I’m going to recount here are events exactly as they occurred and my own personal thoughts and opinions.

None of this is to be taken as the official stance of the US Government or the US Army.

Now, the story. Apologies in advance, this is long.

Back around Thanksgiving of 2018, I was at work, discussing the old Project Stargate with a colleague who worked in a SAP in the same building as me. During this conversation, he mentioned that one of his coworkers was a retired CI colonel who provided cover support to Stargate back in the 80s and offered to introduce me, so I went with him and we had a rather… interesting conversation regarding Stargate and some of the stuff that went on at Fort Meade during that timeframe with regard to that program. During that conversation, I somewhat jokingly asked, “Are you guys going to tell me that UFOs are real next?” They all became rather serious and my colleague asked, “Have you ever heard of Luis Elizondo?”

He went on to explain that Elizondo was a former Army CI guy like myself and told me that I should look into some of his claims and videos. According to this colleague, he served with Elizondo while he was still in the Army and explicitly trusted the man. So – I did my research, watched some stuff, and eventually figured out where Elizondo worked at the time – TTSA. So? I contacted TTSA, identified myself as a CI agent and said I’d be curious to talk to Elizondo if he was willing, just to discuss this subject in general.

24 hours later, I had about a 30 min-1 hour phone call with Elizondo. The biggest takeaways from this conversation were the three questions I asked and his answers to them: 1 – What made you believe? He responded with, “You know the videos in the news? The stuff that’s still classified is way crazier.” 2 – Is AATIP still a thing, because the media says it’s defunct?” – It absolutely still is a thing. 3 – Can I get a job with AATIP as an Army CI guy to do investigations?” – Absolutely, we’ll set up a meeting.

Fast forward to the end of January 2019. I was invited to a meeting by Elizondo at the Gateway Marriott hotel just outside of the Pentagon. When I showed up, the meeting was already in progress- Tom Delonge was there and two gentlemen (who will remain nameless due to the fact they’re still working in the USG). (As a side note, Tom Delonge is a huge dude. Like – ripped and taller than me, and I’m fairly tall. Was not expecting that). I didn’t get the entire conversation from the start, but it sounded to me like they were discussing something to do with mutual work or something of that nature between TTSA and the USG. Don’t quote me. It’s not relevant. Some of the key things from this meeting that I want to point out are: 1 – they said they had “recovered fragments” from UFO sightings/encounters and showed me several photos on their phone of what looked to be regular metallic slag or melted chunks of debris. They also had chemical analysis reports they showed me copies of. Now, I got an A in college chemistry, but having like – 15 seconds – to look at these things and them not being willing to provide copies – I couldn’t tell you what the hell those reports said, or if they contained anything noteworthy – or – really – anything indicating these metallic lumps were from potentially extraterrestrial origin or whatever. One final thing they mentioned was the supposed existence of what they referred to as a “biological specimen.” When I exhibited a bit of surprise over this, Elizondo pointed to the two gentlemen from the Pentagon and said, “they know about it, it belongs to the USG.” This will be important later.

At one point during this meeting, Elizondo got up to see the two gentlemen from the Pentagon off and I had a little bit to talk to Tom directly. During that portion of this encounter, he made the statement to me that there were incidents of “some type of creatures coming through portals on Earth,” and in one incident, these “creatures” used some kind of “weapon” to turn a dog into a “grease stain.” He also mentioned that there was some kind of a “cold war or equivalent to the Syria situation” taking place between a species of extraterrestrial that is already here “under the oceans” and another from “somewhere else” that is currently “on the moon.”

Being that I was trying to be polite (still in ‘seeking a job w/ the AATIP mode), I listened and didn’t really argue or ask a lot of hard-hitting questions, just nodded and heard these guys out. At the conclusion of this meeting, Elizondo set me up with the two gentlemen at the Pentagon and I left.

Fast forward to the end of February 2019.

I met with the two gentlemen in a conference room in the Pentagon cleared for up to TS/SCI discussions and material. I want to say something here for clarity’s sake. In the intelligence community, we have a lot of nooks and crannies and niche jobs you can find yourself in. The one thing that stands true for every single one of these jobs is that there is an “onboarding” process. Meaning – you have to provide paperwork, attend a couple of interviews, take a polygraph, and get “read-on” to whatever it is you’re interested in doing, before you ever even touch the material or do the job.

None of this took place.

I want to make that clear, since at this time, I was still under the impression we were moving toward “me working with AATIP.”

During this hour-long meeting in the Pentagon, we discussed a number of things. First, I (obviously), asked about the “biological specimen” mentioned in the first meeting. They demurred and said, “if there was one, we don’t know where it is, probably been moved between who knows how many warehouses by now.” I asked them about AATIP and recounted my discussion with Elizondo and the potential for possibly working with/for AATIP. They explained that AATIP went defunct due to a funding issue and that, though it still “existed,” it wasn’t currently (as of then) active. We discussed some other stuff, one thing which I won’t recount because they claimed it was SECRET//NOFORN, but I will recount the thing they claimed was TS//SCI. They told me of an incident where an Italian helicopter was literally shot by a UAP and had to make an emergency landing and that they had obtained this information from the Italians. This will be important later. (Also, for other IC professionals reading this who might have just had a mild stroke, it turns out this wasn’t classified information, so chill tf out.) Moving on… the final bit we discussed, which I thoroughly agree with was that – in the 1940s, when the UFO craze took off, the USG at the time had to choose between dealing with the USSR and the start of the Cold War and/or dealing with potential hysteria at home due to the flying saucers people were reporting. So, the national security council at the time decided to work to debunk, marginalize, and ridicule the UFO/Flying Saucer subject, and it through those initial efforts, continued efforts throughout the 1900s, and via the plethora of fringe nonsense today that keep this subject marginalized.

That meeting concluded and that was the last I saw of those two guys.

Fast forward to July 2019.

I watched Unidentified and when we got to the part of the show where they had filmed that meeting in that hotel, I was shocked. In my opinion, that was pretty shady of Tom Delong and Luis Elizondo – to have that meeting take place and secretly have a cameraman up on the second floor of the lobby without notifying us. If I had known they were using that as a stunt for their show at the time, I likely wouldn’t have shown up to the meeting – or – if I did, I wouldn’t have showed up in uniform. The reason for this? Is because the narrator made it seem like there was this super-important, hush-hush meeting between “intelligence officers” to “discuss the UAP issue.” In reality? We were in a fucking hotel lobby in VA, near the Pentagon and talking about some wild stuff w/ little evidence to support any of it.

To circle back to the TS/SCI thing from above? A friend of mine at the time sent me a screenshot of Tom’s Instagram where he discussed that exact incident with the Italian helicopter and, IIRC, it was even featured in one of the episodes of Unidentified. My response to this – was to file a report w/ my local field office over this. I know that might make me look like “the bad guy,” but if you bring a CI Agent in, tell him something is TS/SCI, then I find out a rockstar has the information and that shit is on social media AND a tv show? I’m pretty much obligated to do something at that point.

Anyhoo.

My final thoughts and conclusions regarding all of this.

I started this wild ass journey back in 2018 not really paying much attention to UFOs/UAPs or whatever. I now have read enough, heard enough, and seen enough – to have moved to “UFOs/UAPs are 100% real, but we don’t know exactly what they are.”

Regarding Elizondo and Delonge.

I don’t know exactly what their entire angle was/is regarding all of this. Their publicly stated stance is one of “disclosure.” But the way they interacted with me, and the runaround I experienced in the fucking Pentagon put a bad taste in my mouth. I’m not going to sit here and call their entire endeavor bullshit, because I don’t think, on some level, it is. There are too many stories from the witnesses they interviewed for it simply to be complete nonsense.

But I have maintained from the beginning that something is a bit off – especially with the way Elizondo’s involvement started, how he went about all of this, and the nature of the subject itself. Personally? My first thought was that this was all a giant smokescreen and part of some kind of deception operation the USG is running to cover up for something else. What that could be? Who knows.

But for people touting that “disclosure” is coming – they’re sure taking their sweet-ass time.

Sorry for the long post. There are more bits to this, but this is already a Dickensian treatise. I will be willing to answer questions and provide more information – also – I want to reiterate the following points:

1 – these are the events exactly as they occurred.

2 – these are my personal opinions.

3 – this is not the stance of the USG or the Army.

4 – nothing here is actually classified (again for IC people reading this).

I can verify my identity to a mod, if needed.

EDIT – I forgot to mention that I asked those guys at the Pentagon where the AATIP’s documents and evidence were – and they told me it was “all transferred to Bob Bigelow and didn’t exist at the Pentagon anymore.”